these blues, either pennsylvania or michigan, will get him over the top. here's the fallback scenario. this is why we're talking about these states today. let's say clinton gets north carolina, for donald trump to win he needs pennsylvania, he needs michigan. now, democrats tell you that's unlikely. they say look at the history. they say look at the organization. donald trump's message all day long, anderson, has been brexit plus plus. that's what he's counting on. >> all right, john, come back. toit go to the rest of the panel. proud pennsylvanian michael smerconish joins us. cnn senior political commentator, former obama senior adviser, david axelrod. gloria borger. kayleigh mcenany and jeffrey lord. middle, clinton supporters paul begala and van jones, we like to call them fired up and ready to go. van's a former obama senior adviser. let's take a look at philadelphia right now. this is the scene there. before we get to the panel, a massive crowd out at this