speaker of the house, this is someone donald trump will have to work with to get the agenda done, to prove he is an effective president, to prove that it means something to have a republican president in the white house and also republican control of congress and that, when you have all those things, you can push forward on agenda. so that, to me, is a little perplexing, to see a steve bannon. >> mark, what was significant to me -- and i don't know if it will really play out -- when the president-elect was in the oval office, the president, president obama's chief of staff, denis mcdonough. he took a walk around the south lawn of the white house. you see a picture. who is he walking with? who did he invite for the walk? t he invited jared kushner, donald trump's son-in-law who has been very involved in the campaign. donald trump loves him. very close relationship. played a significant role. all of a sudden who is walking with the white house chief of staff, jared kushner. >> who in some ways was donald trump's chief of staff, entrusted person that he could turn to throughout the entire