a theory to test this as a way to get that done and push this further out and not deal with it right now, deal with it later. >> then, tim, if were a settlement, in avoidance of a full blown trial, how would you see that i mpacting the presidency? >> well, again, like david, i really -- i'm not a lawyer, don't play one on television. i'll put it to you this way. i can't see the advantage to president-elect trump of testifying in this case. so if they can find a way to settle it so he doesn't have to testify, it seems to me politically speaking, not legally speaking, it would be better for the president. i keep thinking about the paula jones deposition and bill clinton, i can't see how he benefits about a possible fraud. i don't see how it could be good for them. >> thank you so much, gentleman,