conference call. transition held a conference saying anybody who comes from the administration will not be able to come for five years after. >> in washington, it is a revolving door. >> it is squint the drain the swamp message which is really what helped him get elected toward end. it ties your hands in certain respects, getting rid of the lobbyists. in terms of the transition team. i've been very struck, on their heels, the last eight or nine days this transition has been. they haven't had a clear message what they want to say their priorities are. i understand that trump is trying to get control of that. we had three days of stories about steve bannon and then transition chaos and they didn't do a whole lot to grab hold of this and tell the country what they want to do. that's what this is supposed to be about. >> it seems like in past transitions, there is more daily