that. >> thank you for that. now steven cohn, professor at princeton university and new york university. thank you, sir. i appreciate your expertise. what would vladimir putin's motive be to interfere with the american election? what would he get out of it? >> i can't think of any. you said i'm emeritus, that means old. i have never in 40 years studied russian-american relations and seen anything like we are in at the metrodome. i think we are in uncharted, perilous territory. even before the hacking allegations, we were in a cold war with russia fraught with hot war from the baltics to ukraine to syria. you have covered those stories. now we are accusing russia and this is basically what you rt roed from moscow of attacking us. cyber attacking. we have a president of the united states suggesting he's going to counter attack. we are talking about war between