on -- you know, avid support who are accept his view of this. and on the left, there are a bunch of people who believe that, you know, the intelligence american intelligence agencies are warmongers and are trying to get us into war with russia and they're expressing skepticism about this. >> but they're not in the know. they're not in the know. >> no. >> is there anybody in the know who is -- go ahead. >> well, i would say that there's a very strong consensus both of the u.s. intelligence agencies and of the private, independent cyber research community that studies these russian hacking groups that russia -- that the russian state, you know, directed and sponsored hacking attacks on the democratic side of the election. and if you think about it, putin had -- you know, this is an old theme for the intelligence agencies. putin blamed hillary clinton personally and publicly in 2011