that bin laden was there. and even intelligence people had different gradings about whether or not we should or should not conduct that operation. when we finally decided that it was important to conduct the operation and we went to the nfc, you know, the president listened to admiral mccraven and what the operation would look like if we did this commando raid on this compound. he listened very carefully and raised questions. but then he kind of looked around in the nfc and said, what do each of you think? and went around that room. and i'd have to say that probably a majority of people around that table thought it was too risky.