campaign trail. back in october, he began to talk about this shift in this position. he talked about having mexico reimburse the united states government for that wall, not exactly the same thing ascending over a big check across that border, anderson. >> all right. jim acosta, thanks very much. more on the political and policy implications. joining us is professor of public policy and former labor sect robert reisch and anformer reagan political director and trump supporter jeffrey lord. secretary reisch, if donald trump, if the transition team is talking to folks on capitol hill about funding the wall through an aappropriations process, i guess donald trump could say well, you know, mexico will reimburse us down the road. do you see that as a flip-flop? >> anderson, when talking about flip-flops and donald trump, you know, it's difficult because he campaigned in a fact-free