and taking on this challenge? >> i think it is important we engage in that conversation so, as i said, we have a clear view of what others are doing and actions they're taking. >> thank you. am i out of time? >> you are. if you'd like to take 30 seconds. >> earlier -- thank you. i'll take those 30 seconds. earlier we talked about the exxon working with a subsidiary to bypass american sanctions and do business with iran. and you said you didn't have knowledge of it, hadn't heard about it. have you participated in any exxon meetings in which you strategized or individuals strategized to find a legal path to do business with nations on which we had sanctions? >> no. >> thank you. >> thank you. senator rish. >> thank you. mr. tillerson, several questions ago in an answer, you stated -- and i was delighted to hear that, that you had reservations
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