side too. and they're building tunnels. so there's nothing you can do. if there are millions of americans who use drugs in this country, and as long as you have millions of americans using drugs, you have drug traffickers in mexico and central america bringing the drugs. so when it comes to illegal immigration, they're going to keep on coming. when it comes to drugs, they're going to keep on coming, with a wall, or without a wall. there are meab othany other way spend $40 billion. >> the president has called for a 5,000 personnel increase in border protection. do you think that will make a difference? >> might make a difference. they are not calling that a deportation force, but he'll go from 21,000 to 26,000. and this is creating a lot of fear within the hispanic community. and within the immigrant community. so what is that going to mean to many families? basically we're talking about the destruction of many families.