tremendous destruction. you look at what's happened. i have a whole list. you'll be very thrilled. >> are you at all concerned it's going to cause more anger among muslims around the world? >> there's plenty of anger right now. how can you have more? >> you don't think it will exacerbate the problem? >> david, i know you're a sophisticated guy. the world is a mess. the world is as angry as it gets. you think this is going to cause a little more anger? the world is an angry place. >> what do you think of that? >> look, the world is a mess, as he would put it. i call it a world in disarray. the real question is, is what he's saying or doing going to add to or detract from it? i think it's going to add to it, whether it's killing off the trade agreements, talking about america first, or most recently, this new position on building a wall with mexico, this talk about the nafta agreement. he could send mexico into an economic fall.