some time. you know, as you probably all know, i came from -- before i retired 39 months in southern command, went there and talked to admiral curt tid and talked to him about the partnership that is very strong between homeland security and -- i'm very proud to say that developed very closely between myself and i was in command and my very, very good friend jay johnson, and we want to continue that. i didn't learn about it on an airplane. >> how much guidance were you able to give them specific will i when it comes to green card or people who had visas and people that work with you on military. it seems like a lot of the problems that were encountered could have been easily foreseeable. >> the -- i think from our perspective, people like me are expected and not just because my military background, but we are the departments are the implementers of the policy. developed by the white house, approved by the president.