>> those are your streams in west virginia and public health issues that would affect your constituents, sir. what's your response? >> let me just say this, jake. my colleagues who don't know and don't understand because it's not in their state, they don't understand how these rules work. that was from the surface mine we call smacker. surface mine reclamation control act. over 400 changes were made to that rule. that rule overstepped the epa and overstepped basically the core of engineers. there is nobody in west virginia that wants dirty water or dirty air. but you can't throw 400 different regulations, duplicated, the duplicity on top of what we already had and expect anyone to survive. you can't do it. so, my colleagues just don't understand. we are not getting rid of it. epa will have control. so will the core of engineers. we just don't need smacker on top of that with 400 new ones which is not going to do a thing to make anything cleaner or safer. this is just all hype, and i've worked with my colleagues hoping