is always in the oval office signing executive orders and showing them to the camera when they are thein there. he talks about the white house as being akin to a movie set. it is apauling in some way but not surprising given two donald trump is. >> that should be up to the national security adviser. >> but you would think he would want to have these conversations in private. >> these are people who have no experience in these jobs. this is where it's not just protocol but it's security, as jim points out. they should know that this is the protocol. this is the protocol, because we need to have secure communications and conversations. and by the way, abe had some interest in what was going on as well. and perhaps the two of them could have gone off somewhere and met wither this own security teams. >> and they did -- they did jointly make statements at 10:30 p.m. eastern on saturday night