just heard from mr. flannery is the -- an attempt to try to argue proximity and draw inferences from proximity to the fact that there was collusion. i don't know what hand or what didn't happen, but it's a little -- it's no more ridiculous to argue that, than it is to argue that president obama authorized wiretaps of trump tower. >> that's wrong. who knows whether or not that happened. but i do know you have investigations to find out, and you often encounter the ridiculous, the implausible. the possible. and you sort out fact from fiction. i do think an investigation is warranted. there seems to be a bipartisan consensus for that, but it should be handled in the political process, which why congress should do it. the calls for a special counsel at this point are ridiculous. i'm not sure what a special council would be doing.