we have to fix it. >> you cited the cbo congressional budget office then. you said it was critically important to accept their assessment. why not now? >> well, i'm consistent with what i just told you. they're good at assessing the cost of programs as it relates to our budget. they don't do a good job of assessing programs and how it relates to people actually getting coverage. in here, i don't think they can look at what phase 2 looks like and phase 3 looks like, like health care reform which means they don't know what's going to happen with competition, reduced prices and increased access for the american consumer. and, so, no, i don't think they can do that. well, and they have a history, especially with obamacare of getting that wrong. >> but you haven't even outlined phase 2 or phase 3 as a result. how can they offer any assessment? >> no, i agree with you, wolf, they can't offer an assessment. but so if they look at phase one, i'm telling your viewers