again, you're seeing a direct correlation between initiatives that bannon cares about are implemented, the held lines are glowing, the stories support the president's agenda. when it's contrary to what steve may want or the approach being employed by the white house to sell it or when congress isn't cooperating the way steve would like, all of a sudden the headlines turn negative and things get personal. things from the past get drawn up. that tells you there's a direct correlation between the agenda that steve has for this president and for this white house and what you'll read any given day on the pages of breitbart. >> very much in communication with them. steve bannon today, mark, came out. he doesn't talk a lot publicly, but he talks to the atlantic, and the article is called kellyanne's alternate universe, which could be an s&l skit. steve bannon credits kellyanne conway with saving trump. in so doing, by the way, implicitly admitting they thought they were going to lose,