was a party held in his honor, says and i remember seeing him then. that was a couple of years ago. >> did he know you were from colorado? >> i don't know. it must have -- at some point come out in our conversations. i don't know. do you recall saying words of gratitude in help writing your book. >> he did not write my book. he did not help right my book. i wrote my book. i certainly expressed gratitude to my dissertation supervisor in a book that is basically my dissertation. >> i think you were quoted as saying in 2006 you thanked fenis tore for his kind support through draft after draft. >> and there were a lot of drafts, senator. i mean, golly, that was -- that was a very tough degree. that was the most rigorous academic experience of my life,