picked up and to the point where a guy believes that there's human trafficking going on in a pizza place in washington, d.c. and he goes in and fires shots. really? >> fair to say you despise putin and you've made that very clear. what did you think when you saw the president with bill o'reilly when o'reilly called putin a thug and a murderer and the president said, well, you think we're so innocent? >> killer. what o'reilly said, it stands out in my memory he said he is a killer and the president said, well aren't we killers too. that was so appalling to me to have a moral equivalency between this fellow who is -- i don't know how many death dollas he's responsible for where he put down any opposition with great killing. >> there's several assassinations just last week. >> one guy was thrown out of a fourth-story window. so to state that there's some