forces, but forces, extreme right forces, mainly, backed by russia. i mean, they like russia consider that russia is not a threat, it's an ally. yes, we have seen, especially yesterday, right before the end of the official, we have seen the results of the alliance hacking and massive dissemination and that we can track. and we know where it comes from. >> we do need to be clear at this stage. no confirmation that it is russia that is behind the hacking and even in other european cases, no confirmation, just a suspicion is what you're telling us. >> the presidential campaign does an investigation in the way and, i witnessed that many russians have been expelled from the usa at that time. wat we can already see is that the dissemination. not the hacking itself, but the disseminations of the fake news