she hasn't had reporting there was collusion as well. we had this conversation. that doesn't mean there isn't evidence. no one is publicly coming forward and saying they have seen evidence on the collusion. >> we will see what they have or don't have. trying to jump the gun on either side is counter productive. we talked about this before. >> jumping the gun is when we talk about it every day. >> there are new developments every day often fueled by the president or certain things that require as clapper said. not just context. what happened in the substance of those like with jared kushner? >> i think for you and i and for your viewers, we should sit back and say let the investigation happen. >> that's what i'm saying to you. >> it happens every day. >> there are new developments every day. >> it comes back to the point if