they were not allowed into the secret meetings. we had no hearings. he didn't call us up to the white house to have listen to our ideas. and there are tremendous ideas on the democratic party and frankly, ideas in the republican party. and so for him to say obamacare failed, ask those people that have pre-existing conditions that are now covered. ask those people that didn't have coverage that now have it. ask those feeks as we've seen the personal bankruptcy get cut in half in america, can ask those folks that would have been bankrupt right now by medical bills that aren't because of obamacare. it polls well now. this is a guy making up lies. this is what everybody should worry about right now is that trump is trying to kill obamacare. he's trying to sabotage obamacare by threatening not to enforce the individual mandate, by threatening not to make the resources for so-called cost sharing available and stop advertising for healthy people to enroll. >> that's affecting insurers.