strong signal or whatever. i know mr. manafort. i haven't spoken to him in a long time, but i know him. he was with the campaign, as you know, for a very short period of time, relatively short period of time, but i've always known him for a good man. i thought it was a very, you know -- they do that very seldom, so i was surprised to see it. >> this comes as we're lerj more about what investigators are actually looking for. as it doms to manafort, pamela brown is "outfront" with that. you have new reporting about manafort and the state of the investigation. >> reporter: that's right. in fact, we've learned, erin, that paul manafort's son-in-law jeffrey yohai met with material investigators just in recent months. we've learned from one of the sources that he actually turned over documents and provided information to federal investigators in new york. and we're also told that these investigators were seeking cooperation related to the investigation into paul