for all the arm chair activists you're talking to one individual that actually in studio mano a mano debated david duke. i won't take a back seat on confronting anybody on real raceism. i want to distinguish real racism or imagined or manifested racism. >> we have to take a short break. we continues to look at these pictures and trying to discern what is it we're seeing right now with people gathering. they are in a very tight space here. it's difficult to interpret the images we're seeing but they are powerful images. i do want to have you back after the commercial break. let's continue this conversation and we'll have much more from the newsroom. bad decision doesn't have to be permenant!