licenses is a reflection of where society has reached. >> i understand. i'm listening to your every word, especially as a woman. but when i read, just for people who don't know, you know, saudi arabia or as are familiar as you are. you can't marry, divorce, travel, open a bank account, have a job, have elective surgery without -- >> brooke, i don't mean to interrupt you, but i really have to stop you there. forgive me for interjecting -- >> sure, please. >> but as a saudi woman, i can tell you, i actually just relocated here and i have to tell you that i think there's a bit of a misconception regarding the guardianship system. so saudi arabia has made tangible strides in facilitating women's rights into the public space and overall with respect to access and choice. and i think there's still, there's going for room for improvement with respect to control, and that's when we talk about the guardianship system. but the gardenship system is very different than what organically happens on the ground. and i think that's a disconnect.