vietnam war. he ended up a hero, but at the time he was quite controversial, and incarcerated because of it. we have to have patience. sometimes the people we castigate today, we memorialize later. >> you mentioned dr. king. that happened -- you know i wasn't around. you know, i was around, but i was a wee little one. but dr. king was not loved in his time for what he did. >> absolutely not. and that's why it takes great courage. it's so easy today to say those things that are familiar and convenient and quite popular. but in the midst of those masses of people who go with the flow, there's always people who speak out against it sometimes rightly or wrongly. but we must defend their right to say what they want to say even when we don't agree with what they want to say. >> that's what ware all about. and the controversy had died down. >> it had died down. some people called it a stunt and then him and the president meeting and agreeing to do this