trump's clubs, hotels, restaurants. so what should he be doing with these payments? how can he avoid the situation? >> first of all if he had followed the the tradition of past presidents, he would have divested or sold off those assets and we wouldn't have them so we wouldn't be having this debate. we're in this situation because we have a president who declared publically that a president can't have a conflict of interest, which as a matter of common sense is just illogical. but if he's going to keep the hotel, at one point he offered they would track which payments were from foreign governments and give that money out. they backed away from that and have refused to the carefully track the the payments from foreign governments. so it's hard to know what they could do if they're not willing to even se gre gait the money, much less decline it.