according to my sources, that julian assange rebuffed him. after i reported that, i got a comment from julian assange who told me that that was correct, that he did, indeed, rebuff outreach from cambridge analytica. in the time since my story broke, of course, the trump campaign has pushed back against it in kind of an oblique way suggested they relied more on the rnc for their data needs. however, the trump campaign paid cambridge analytica upwards of $5 million over the course of the election cycle. it's hard to distance yourself from a company when you've given them that much cash. >> so how are trump donors robert and rebecca mercer and steve bannon all connected to this? >> robert and rebecca mercer are basically the majority shareholders or owners of cambridge analytica. steve bannon for years was the top outside gatekeeper to the mercers. and alexander knicks e-mailed according to cnn's reporting becca mercer saying he had these communications with julian