the campaign or who in the pain was seeing the memos that jonathan steel was putting out? you guys are paying for opposition research. you must have been seeing the fruits of that throughout the campaign. >> well, we were getting briefings that were put together by the hau firm with information. i don't know -- >> and they wouldn't say we'd higher this guy, jonathan steel and he's got sources in russia and this is information in drips and drabs. christopher steele, sorry. >> what i've known is what i read in the press that i think it was $1.2 million that was spnt on this overall project and i think it was like 120,000, some fraction of that went to this company. so i don't know who else, you know, contributed to these reports. snoo but were you seeing -- you mu been seeing -- i mean, you're saying you're getting briefings from the lawyer. you mu been seeing was it in memo form, okay, now there's this interview and this person is saying this about the