supremacists. that was a clear betrayal of american values and the bushes came out with that. i think that spoke resoundingly about the void in leadership they were seeing from the white house. >> there are a lot of quotes from the bushes that are going to make news. in this book. bush 43 talks about whether vice president dick cheney had played an outsized role in his presidency, something that gets talked about all the time, which dick cheney too powerful, and bush 43 told you? >> he was talking about the neo conservatives in general and specifically about cheney and rumsfeld, and he said, and i quote, "cheney and rumsfeld never made one [ bleep ] decision." >> that's the quote? >> that's the quote. i understand his frustration, because at the time there was a perception that dick cheney was the acting president, but, in