particularly the podesta e-mails. >> delineate? they stole them. what word is that? >> they had them. they gave them out and nobody ever said that the information they gave out was false. >> they stole the guy's e-mails. it's not whether or not they falsified the e-mails. i know there was some political fallout about that. they stole them. not delineate them. did you ever say you delineated my car? they stole the e-mails. >> i have no idea how they got the e-mails. it's not fair for you to say how they got them. we think they stole them. you're not a cyber security expert, neither am i. >> you don't have to be one. read what the intelligence community said. >> which intelligence community said they stole jon podesta's e-mails? >> if you believe that wikileaks had nothing to do with it. >> i give them no cover. mainstream media covering wikileaks throughout the campaign for the release of those e-mails.