with the russians, and you get a straight answer if you ask the summary questions, but if you ask the specific questions, it leads you to other documents or witnesses and you can prove or disprove what the witnesses have said. i think we gained important insights that we can follow-up if we have the support of the majority find out, was this witness telling us the truth, and if not does it lead us to other evidence that will shed more light on the facts. i think it was very productive. >> chris stewart says he doesn't think there was anything there, and there was a long questioning period, and don jr. gave as much as he thought he could give, and based on what he knows and the facts of the situation, there's nothing to follow-up on in terms of collusion. >> i think he expressed that opinion from the beginning, and if you look at what has been