it -- >> that's the question. >> that is a crime. >> yes. >> that's the question. and that hasn't been established. it hasn't been established, he says he doesn't recall it and says they didn't act on it and no one even tried to use said decryption key that is discussed in the e-mail. is that -- is that what this all hangs on? does it matter if there's evidence that -- does it require that there is evidence that the e-mail was read, forwarded, passed along in some way or acted upon or just the mere fact that it's sitting in his inbox? >> you would have to have a evidence he acted on it. we're starting to see a little circumstantial evidence. we have the fact that for the first time he tweets about wikileaks. >> yeah. >> we also have his prior history of mischaracterizing meetings. remember the trump tower meeting originally said it was a big nothing only about sanctions then we find out -- >> three or four iterations later. >> i think there's a lot of information we don't have on this yet. >> not a good look when he can't