he's showing restraint. >> another standout point from the interview was this not so subtle jab he took at jeff sessions who recused him several from the special counsel investigation. he says too bad jeff recused himself. i don't want to get into loyalty but i will say this holder protect the president obama, totally protected him. when you look at the irs scandal or the guns, these were real problems and holder protected the president and i have great respect for that. i'll be honest, i have great respect for that. >> he's trying to get a message across isn't he? >> not so subtle. while being a good businessman is his forte, being subtle is not. there's been tension between donald trump and attorney general sessions almost since the beginning. he's hot been happy about that recusal. he hasn't been super quiet about that. but i think it's really