bannon has nothing to do with me or my presidency. when he was fired, he lost his job and his mind. steve doesn't represent my base. he's only in to for himself, unquote. obviously i know the answer to this question, but i'm going to ask it anyway. can you think of a worse communications strategy for dealing with this than how they have done it? i mean, is there -- is there any -- how would you have told them to deal with this book, just don't even talk about it? >> well, i mean, i would have let -- i would have let the press secretary handle it. i would have been very muted about it. when you engage like this, as i said earlier, you just amp it up. let me just point out one thing about steve miller's rather strange appearance on your show today. you can't at the same time argue that a book is pure fiction and denounce steve bannon for his quotes in the book. okay? either it's one thing or the other. obviously it isn't pure fiction if they think bannon's quotes were accurate. and obviously bannon himself