not 2020? >> i think it goes partly to democrats want someone to tell them what to do. they need a grown up. and we are looking around and it's cory booker and kamala harris and we want someone to be in charge of this. here is this extraordinary woman and brand who gets up and says here's what you can do. and at the same time i think it's projecting all of this onto this person who i think was saying something quite different. >> this is what you wrote. this is attribute to name less women who have faced their hone moments and for today's young black girls on floors that they couldn't imagine themselves winning award and woke up monday saying they just might. that said, you saw gayle on cbs, if she was talking to her phone on the wee hours and said shut it down.