fairly frequently. not a fan of john kelly because john kelly has tried to limit his contact with the president. he sees the fix. >> the president is the only one to make the decision if john kelly stays on the job. the general is there to put in policies and procedures, and in this case those didn't work, and we need to find out why. where the buck stops, i guess at the end of the day is with the general. >> it t's the president's decision, but i know he watches a lot of cable television, especially fox news, so i'm going to give him a suggestion on tv. >> the buck doesn't stop with john kelly, the buck stops with the president, which, if the president is watching, it may be very soothing for him to hear the buck stops with general kelly. >> again, the president we are told -- i don't have any information, if anybody does, please step up -- the president feels blindsided by this. if that's not true, please step up.