>> all right. so you do see it as active interference. >> absolutely. >> i want to turn, if i may, congressman, to the other breaking news at this moment. you heard manu raju reporting that prince, black water founder, who was a trump associate and brother of the education secretary may have misled the house intelligence committee meeting. they are saying prince did not say george nader was atmeeting. also reporting adviser to the trump at some point. nader is now cooperating with mueller investigation. what do you make of this, congressman? >> two problems there with eric prince behavior. one is you tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth when you are under oath before a committee in congress, especially intelligence committee that has own separate investigation with foreign interference in our election. prince did not do that.