and so, i think, individuals may simply say, i'm not going to participate in this. i don't want to open my door to people who may come to the door and i don't know who they are. so i think there will be some concern, and it's alarming. >> yep. michael, vanita, thank you very much, i appreciate the conversation. when we come back, could the citizen quip question on the census actually be political playback. why some blue states are crying foul and what they could stand to lose. termites, feasting on homes 24/7.