two things instrument me. this is a leakiest in terms of the amount of -- her operation, and indicate bennett -- her occupation is remarkably small and they do a good job of keeping this stuff out of the news. she helping round him out. the more she was on the campaign trail, the better for donald trump. she warms him up, gives him a back story that i'm a guy who you see on television. so he needs her quite literally from a political perspective as well as their relationship. she helps him, without question. >> as chris points out, she's a private person. she was out there last week on her "be best" program.