crystallized this choice because what bolton was proposing is that north korea essentially capitulate, give up their weapons like the libyans did. the libyans hadn't even tested any weapons, they just bought a few parts and gave up those parts. north korea has invested 30 years, 25 years, invested tens of billions in plutonium and enrichment and in testing. so they have a nuclear weapon. see he was telling them capitulate. >> he admitted what they had was smaller than what north korea has. as you put it, it's a significant difference between the two things. but if you're looking at disarmament by libya in 2003/2004, then you have to look at gadhafi being overthrown and