war. hand-to-hand conflict, conducted by one side. conducted by the white house and as you say by the president's allies who are doing etching they can to discredit the investigation, to discredit the institutions of the fbi and the justice department in order to drive public penalties and the other side is kept silent because that is the professionalism mueller is displaying. they don't have anybody out there speaking. frankly, there have been very few democrats good at speaking up. or speaking up on that side and to defend mueller. i think mueller is running an extraordinary professional organization. there haven't been leaks. the results of having no leak, all the propaganda piles up on the other side. i must say this is helping the are the in public penalties. i think it's hurting our democracy to erode public trust