consultation with his lawyers. the president was not involved. the president was not involved in the drafting or issuing the statement, it came from dontrum on how to release that out. the president was not involved in that decision. >> he certainly didn't dictate but he weighed in and offered suggestion like any father would do. >> even today, sarah sanders refuse to explain the lies. >> you said, certainly didn't dictate a statement, i wonder if you can tell us the basis of your comment when you made that in august and do you think that still stand? do you retract that? >> one again this is a reference back to a letter from the outside counsel. i understand but it's also pertaining to aler from the president's outside counsel and therefore i can't answer and i would direct you -- >> what was your basis of saying it? >> i'm not going to get sbointo back and forth and i'd encounter you to reach out to outside