having ice cream before you get the main meal. i want something nourishing here and kim jong un has to deliver denuclearization in a verifiable and irreversible manner as trump and pompeo and others have demanded. maybe we'll be surprised there are no indications leading up to the summit that he'll do that and there's been a downsizing of expectations leading up to the summit. >> i want to bring it to the menu for a second. typically the white house releases these details. by releasing the details of the menu, this is again legitimatizing kim jong un and putting him on equal footing with other world leaders, which is what he wants. and i really want to stress he that this working lunch is perfunctory at this juncture. if sarah sanders is in the room,