dr. linton, can you just describe what the short-term or long-term effects of this kind of separation could be on children? >> absolutely. so what we know is that highly stressful experiences like separation of children from their parents could cause irreparable harm to children. in the short term, we might see things like changes in bodily functions. so difficulty sleeping, difficulty eating, changes with toileting. we might see changes in their behavior, so we might see aggression, or we might see anxiety and we might also see changes in their memory or their ability to learn and to develop. in the long term, we know that highly stressful experiences place children at risk for things like diabetes and heart disease and depression. >> it can have that kind of a long-term impact? >> absolutely. when you think of what kind of stress children are faced with being in centers like detention