on this in november because the senate will have about three or four pick ups, the house, they'll hold easily. if it comes down to the average person in america saying, wait a minute, you really want to abolish i.c.e.? let's go what i.c.e. stands for, i-c-e, right. >> immigration and customs enforcement. >> all they want is a "c" now, customs. they want to be passport stampers. >> that's not true. >> if you abolish i.c.e., you talk about immigration enforcement. enforcement is not what you want. >> customs and border protection would still enforce the border. >> with what? >> their border control agents. >> you'we still don't have enou agents. >> you're proving that people don't understand what i.c.e. does. >> they sit on joint terrorism task force. >> they go 100 miles in from the border. i.c.e. is the force that goes into chicago, they go into albuquerque, into the cities,