investigation. saul, it's so great to have you on. >> thanks. >> you know brett cav an awe. what was it like to work with him. >> he was quite young then, in his early 30s and recognized back then as a brill want and hardworking thinker, he was another staff member, and he was very well regarded. quiet, hardworking, great sense of humor, he laughed at all of my jokes. that's how i define having a sense of humor. he was a delight to work with, he was. >> you were both invest gating a sitting president. how did kavanaugh -- >> i think he's always viewed