>> pay with cash. >> ana navarro, what do you hear, and why does it matter? >> chris, this reminded me so much of that debate earlier this year about yanni or laurel. do you hear yanni or do you hear laurel? some people definitely heard yanni. some people definitely heard laurel. look, if you are a defender of donald trump, you hear what you want to hear. if you are an opponent of donald trump you clearly hear that he wants to pay cash to bury the story of this playmate. and you put the pieces together. in and of itself this tape doesn't prove anything except to prove that there are other tapes. this is just one piece in the very large puzzle that bob mueller is putting together. look, michael cohen, if he recorded one tape, you better believe this is like cockroaches, man. where there is one there is more. >> oh, believe me, i'm well aware -- it's about the relevant of each one. let's start with this one.