look, if you are a defender of donald trump, you hear what you want to hear. if you are an opponent of donald trump you clearly hear that he wants to pay cash to bury the story of this playmate. and you put the pieces together. in and of itself this tape doesn't prove anything except to prove that there are other tapes. this is just one piece in the very large puzzle that bob mueller is putting together. look, michael cohen, if he recorded one tape, you better believe this is like cockroaches, man. where there is one there is more. >> oh, believe me, i'm well aware -- it's about the relevant of each one. let's start with this one. steve cortes, let me bump up ana's vig on this. this tape does prove pretty reasonably that the president wasn't hearing about these efforts to get around the karen mcdougal payment for the first time. he knows the dollar amount involved. he's familiar with the construction. he's familiar with what cohen is