it's open to that meeting in moscow. what's your take on this back and forth about the second summit. >> well, remember the russian goals in all of this going back to 2016 according to the declassified intelligence assessments. it's to sow discord and create chaos. this meeting in moscow would certainly do that. if you thought helsinki stirred the pot wait until there is a one-on-one between trump and putin in moscow when it hapz. there are too many unanswered questions for that not to have putin sitting back and giggling with flee as what happens in the american political space. >> you wrote about the dangerous rift between president trump and the u.s. intelligence community. you call the present moment a crisis. explain that. >> yeah, the intelligence policy relationship is not one that's always smooth. even in the best of circumstances presidents and those around them -- they get intelligence messages that are